From hvss at seznam.cz  Mon Oct  1 06:44:30 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:44:30 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
Message-ID: <200710010944.30987.hvss@seznam.cz>

kdo jste z blavy a chcete desku: nechcete se domluvit, ze bych to poslal na 
jednu adresu a pak by jste si to rozebrali? bo by se usetrilo na postovnem a 
platbe za dobirku.
pouvazujte..


p.

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 07:02:45 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:02:45 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
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ja suhlasim

peter

On 10/1/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
>
> kdo jste z blavy a chcete desku: nechcete se domluvit, ze bych to poslal
> na
> jednu adresu a pak by jste si to rozebrali? bo by se usetrilo na postovnem
> a
> platbe za dobirku.
> pouvazujte..
>
>
> p.
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From andras.csefalvay at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 09:38:46 2007
From: andras.csefalvay at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E1s_Cs=E9falvay?=)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:38:46 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
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moze byt

On 01/10/2007, peter mikus <peto.a.vlk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ja suhlasim
>
> peter
>
> On 10/1/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
> >
> > kdo jste z blavy a chcete desku: nechcete se domluvit, ze bych to poslal
> > na
> > jednu adresu a pak by jste si to rozebrali? bo by se usetrilo na
> > postovnem a
> > platbe za dobirku.
> > pouvazujte..
> >
> >
> > p.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Puredata mailing list
> > Puredata at itchybit.org
> > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
> >
>
>
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From gnd at itchybit.org  Mon Oct  1 11:26:10 2007
From: gnd at itchybit.org (gnd at itchybit.org)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:26:10 -0000 (AZOST)
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
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tak blavaci niekto sa prihlaste ku komu sa to posle, ja este nemam adresu
- az dalsi (pripadne uz tento) tyzden..

gnd/ :)

> moze byt
>
> On 01/10/2007, peter mikus <peto.a.vlk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ja suhlasim
>>
>> peter
>>
>> On 10/1/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
>> >
>> > kdo jste z blavy a chcete desku: nechcete se domluvit, ze bych to
>> poslal
>> > na
>> > jednu adresu a pak by jste si to rozebrali? bo by se usetrilo na
>> > postovnem a
>> > platbe za dobirku.
>> > pouvazujte..
>> >
>> >
>> > p.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Puredata mailing list
>> > Puredata at itchybit.org
>> > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
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From hvss at seznam.cz  Mon Oct  1 10:36:20 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:36:20 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] licencovani arduina
Message-ID: <200710011336.20571.hvss@seznam.cz>

ahoj,
jak jsem se dnes dozvedel, tvurci arduina *ne*podporuji sireni hw arduina pod 
timto nazvem tretimi osobami. proto vsichni co si objednali arduino, dostanou 
freeduino, aby mi tu neklepali panove z patents & co. :)

viz tento DLOUHY thread
http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1184102866/0

hf
p.

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Mon Oct  1 17:27:17 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:27:17 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
In-Reply-To: <52560.85.248.115.248.1191241570.squirrel@mail.itchybit.org>
References: <200710010944.30987.hvss@seznam.cz>
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kludne aj mne ......adresu som uz pisal

peter

On 10/1/07, gnd at itchybit.org <gnd at itchybit.org> wrote:
>
> tak blavaci niekto sa prihlaste ku komu sa to posle, ja este nemam adresu
> - az dalsi (pripadne uz tento) tyzden..
>
> gnd/ :)
>
> > moze byt
> >
> > On 01/10/2007, peter mikus <peto.a.vlk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ja suhlasim
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
> >> On 10/1/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > kdo jste z blavy a chcete desku: nechcete se domluvit, ze bych to
> >> poslal
> >> > na
> >> > jednu adresu a pak by jste si to rozebrali? bo by se usetrilo na
> >> > postovnem a
> >> > platbe za dobirku.
> >> > pouvazujte..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Puredata mailing list
> >> > Puredata at itchybit.org
> >> > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >> Puredata at itchybit.org
> >> http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
> >>
> >>
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> > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
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From hvss at seznam.cz  Thu Oct  4 07:17:20 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:17:20 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] bratislaucania vsetkych casti, spojte sa!
In-Reply-To: <d51f969b0710011127t70893396ka1fc3961d026195f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d51f969b0710011127t70893396ka1fc3961d026195f@mail.gmail.com>
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Dne pond?l? 01 ??jen 2007 20:27 peter mikus napsal(a):
> kludne aj mne ......adresu som uz pisal
>
> peter
>
dobre..zitra to jdu poslat dobirkou. bude to 6 desek za 1080kc + cca 65kc za 
postovne.
jmenovite pro petera m. 2, andras 1., gnd 3 plosnaky

jo a jeste me napada..pry mate drahou elektroniku tam u vas..takze jestli by 
jste chteli neco koupit tady tak se jeste ozvete. dyztak gme.cz

p.

From hvss at seznam.cz  Fri Oct  5 14:25:15 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:25:15 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] what a big envelope for a such small board!!!
Message-ID: <200710051725.15643.hvss@seznam.cz>

zdravim
tak jsem stravil asi tak hodinu na poste odesilanim 'zbozi'. to by jste 
neverili kolik ukonu se musi vykonat a kolik papiru vyplnit. obalky nakonec 
obdrzely spoustu razitek & nalepek, a zitra rannim rozvozem poputuji dal.

takze vyckavejte...

p.

From jozef.henzl at radas-atc.cz  Mon Oct  8 05:51:02 2007
From: jozef.henzl at radas-atc.cz (Jozef Henzl)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:51:02 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] what a big envelope for a such small board!!!
In-Reply-To: <200710051725.15643.hvss@seznam.cz>
References: <200710051725.15643.hvss@seznam.cz>
Message-ID: <200710080851.02221.jozef.henzl@radas-atc.cz>

Dne p?tek 05 ??jen 2007 17:25 Pepa Henzl napsal(a):
> zdravim
> tak jsem stravil asi tak hodinu na poste odesilanim 'zbozi'. to by jste
> neverili kolik ukonu se musi vykonat a kolik papiru vyplnit. obalky nakonec
> obdrzely spoustu razitek & nalepek, a zitra rannim rozvozem poputuji dal.
>
> takze vyckavejte...

jo a tenhle mail jsem chtel poslat uz v patek ;)

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 10:55:08 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:55:08 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] arduino
Message-ID: <d51f969b0710110455x72d87276u4c92422d7ce5a024@mail.gmail.com>

caute,

tak arduina dorazili .... len tetka na poste mi oznamila ze sa tam este
prirata 245sk za prevod na ucet do ciech,
cize to vychadza cca 1700sk

Tak sa vyjadrite ci to moze byt a mam to vybrat (asi ani nic ine neostava).

Peter
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From gnd at itchybit.org  Thu Oct 11 12:35:57 2007
From: gnd at itchybit.org (gnd at itchybit.org)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:35:57 -0000 (AZOST)
Subject: [Puredata] arduino
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> caute,
>
> tak arduina dorazili .... len tetka na poste mi oznamila ze sa tam este
> prirata 245sk za prevod na ucet do ciech,

dopice kurvy pojebane.. ja neviem jaky je dnes problem poslat cez net
peniaze do susedneho statu aby nas institucie museli takto zdierat.
pojebany medzibankovy prevod stoji 400,- Sk pojebana dobierka postou stoji
260 .. aaargh...

kolko to potom vychadza na jednu dosku ?

gnd/

ps. to uz radsej zrobme transfer cez kyberiu - posleme dosky po niekom a
peniaze tiez. napriklad poznam babutu - holku ktora casto pendluje medzi
brnom a blavou.. akurat neviem preco ma nanapadla skor.. pardon..

ps2. pepa mal si z toho nejake vydavky ? teda, platil si nejake postovne ?
ak sa to nepreberie tak sa ti to vrati ?

ps3. ostatni si myslite co ? ak Vam tie cashe navyse nevadia tak sa
prisposobim..


> cize to vychadza cca 1700sk
>
> Tak sa vyjadrite ci to moze byt a mam to vybrat (asi ani nic ine
> neostava).
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
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From popcorp86 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 12:39:29 2007
From: popcorp86 at gmail.com (Jozef Henzl)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:39:29 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] arduino
In-Reply-To: <d51f969b0710110455x72d87276u4c92422d7ce5a024@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d51f969b0710110455x72d87276u4c92422d7ce5a024@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200710111539.29831.popcorp86@gmail.com>

Dne ?tvrtek 11 ??jen 2007 13:55 peter mikus napsal(a):
> caute,
>
> tak arduina dorazili .... len tetka na poste mi oznamila ze sa tam este
> prirata 245sk za prevod na ucet do ciech,
> cize to vychadza cca 1700sk
>
> Tak sa vyjadrite ci to moze byt a mam to vybrat (asi ani nic ine neostava).
>
> Peter

Ahoj
ja jsem platil dobirku od nas, a pripocital jsem ji k vysledne cene..bylo to 
100kc za dobirku a postovne. ale teda to ze se jeste bude navic platit takovy 
ranec za prevod, s tim jsem teda nepocital.
s babutou me to taky mohlo napadnout...sakra :/
-- 
Jozef Henzl
http://popcorp.org

From popcorp86 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 12:42:37 2007
From: popcorp86 at gmail.com (Jozef Henzl)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:42:37 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] arduino
In-Reply-To: <1911.217.23.248.90.1192109757.squirrel@mail.itchybit.org>
References: <d51f969b0710110455x72d87276u4c92422d7ce5a024@mail.gmail.com>
	<1911.217.23.248.90.1192109757.squirrel@mail.itchybit.org>
Message-ID: <200710111542.37426.popcorp86@gmail.com>


>
> ps2. pepa mal si z toho nejake vydavky ? teda, platil si nejake postovne ?
> ak sa to nepreberie tak sa ti to vrati ?

jestli by jste to nevyzvedli, tak to bude lezet dva tydny na poste a pak to 
(doufam :) poslou zpatky. ale postovne si vezmou, a nevim jestli nebudu muset 
zaplatit neco navic za poslani zpatky.
je to pekny fook teda..pouceni pro priste :(

-- 
Jozef Henzl
http://popcorp.org

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 11 14:06:31 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:06:31 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] arduino
In-Reply-To: <1911.217.23.248.90.1192109757.squirrel@mail.itchybit.org>
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Ked sa to rozrata tak to na dosku vychadza cca 284.....

mne osobne sa to tiez nepaci, ale neviem ci ta cena nebude nakoniec rovnaka
ak to vratime a budeme to riesit inak ...
okrem toho to bude trvat minimalne tri tyzdne. tak neviem ....celkom vtipne
je, ze keby som preto skocil do brna tak cestovne bude asi mensie ako
postovne a poplatky za prevod.

ale mali by sme sa zhodnut ci to vyberiem alebo nie .....mame na to dva
tyzdne tusim


On 10/11/07, gnd at itchybit.org <gnd at itchybit.org> wrote:
>
> > caute,
> >
> > tak arduina dorazili .... len tetka na poste mi oznamila ze sa tam este
> > prirata 245sk za prevod na ucet do ciech,
>
> dopice kurvy pojebane.. ja neviem jaky je dnes problem poslat cez net
> peniaze do susedneho statu aby nas institucie museli takto zdierat.
> pojebany medzibankovy prevod stoji 400,- Sk pojebana dobierka postou stoji
> 260 .. aaargh...
>
> kolko to potom vychadza na jednu dosku ?
>
> gnd/
>
> ps. to uz radsej zrobme transfer cez kyberiu - posleme dosky po niekom a
> peniaze tiez. napriklad poznam babutu - holku ktora casto pendluje medzi
> brnom a blavou.. akurat neviem preco ma nanapadla skor.. pardon..
>
> ps2. pepa mal si z toho nejake vydavky ? teda, platil si nejake postovne ?
> ak sa to nepreberie tak sa ti to vrati ?
>
> ps3. ostatni si myslite co ? ak Vam tie cashe navyse nevadia tak sa
> prisposobim..
>
>
> > cize to vychadza cca 1700sk
> >
> > Tak sa vyjadrite ci to moze byt a mam to vybrat (asi ani nic ine
> > neostava).
> >
> > Peter
> > _______________________________________________
> > Puredata mailing list
> > Puredata at itchybit.org
> > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
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From kubriel at gpc.sk  Sat Oct 13 09:46:09 2007
From: kubriel at gpc.sk (kubriel at gpc.sk)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:46:09 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] arduino map
Message-ID: <20071013124609.6w8f87c34s44o8c8@217.67.30.222>

caute, niekomu by sa mohlo hodit toto:

http://disk.jabbim.cz/j.henzl at njs.netlab.cz/arduino-board.png


From hvss at seznam.cz  Tue Oct 23 11:04:41 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:04:41 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
Message-ID: <200710231404.41348.hvss@seznam.cz>

jak to dopadlo s tema deskama?
mam ocekavat ze se mi to vrati v nejblizsi dobe nebo to nekdo byl vyzvednout?

p.

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Tue Oct 23 17:22:49 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:22:49 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
In-Reply-To: <200710231404.41348.hvss@seznam.cz>
References: <200710231404.41348.hvss@seznam.cz>
Message-ID: <d51f969b0710231122y68e4fae9w6676c3d420e62b4b@mail.gmail.com>

no .....asi to pojdem vybrat ....nikto sa mi neozval zatial, tak som  cakal.

takze tymto apelujem na gnd-ho a andrasa aby sa vyjadrili ze ci to vyberiem
alebo nie.
myslim ze aj tak sa to nebude dat uz vyriesit lacnejsie velmi (predpokladam
ze postovne prepadne)

peter

On 10/23/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
>
> jak to dopadlo s tema deskama?
> mam ocekavat ze se mi to vrati v nejblizsi dobe nebo to nekdo byl
> vyzvednout?
>
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From gnd at itchybit.org  Tue Oct 23 22:08:52 2007
From: gnd at itchybit.org (gnd at itchybit.org)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:08:52 -0000 (AZOST)
Subject: [Puredata] co?
In-Reply-To: <d51f969b0710231122y68e4fae9w6676c3d420e62b4b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d51f969b0710231122y68e4fae9w6676c3d420e62b4b@mail.gmail.com>
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jasne vyber to :)


> no .....asi to pojdem vybrat ....nikto sa mi neozval zatial, tak som
> cakal.
>
> takze tymto apelujem na gnd-ho a andrasa aby sa vyjadrili ze ci to
> vyberiem
> alebo nie.
> myslim ze aj tak sa to nebude dat uz vyriesit lacnejsie velmi
> (predpokladam
> ze postovne prepadne)
>
> peter
>
> On 10/23/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
>>
>> jak to dopadlo s tema deskama?
>> mam ocekavat ze se mi to vrati v nejblizsi dobe nebo to nekdo byl
>> vyzvednout?
>>
>> p.
>> _______________________________________________
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From andras.csefalvay at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 08:00:44 2007
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:00:44 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
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Vyber to - ja iba potrebujem vediet ze kam mam preto ist , a kedy, a 300sk
alebo ako to teraz vyzera?


On 24/10/2007, gnd at itchybit.org <gnd at itchybit.org> wrote:
>
> jasne vyber to :)
>
>
> > no .....asi to pojdem vybrat ....nikto sa mi neozval zatial, tak som
> > cakal.
> >
> > takze tymto apelujem na gnd-ho a andrasa aby sa vyjadrili ze ci to
> > vyberiem
> > alebo nie.
> > myslim ze aj tak sa to nebude dat uz vyriesit lacnejsie velmi
> > (predpokladam
> > ze postovne prepadne)
> >
> > peter
> >
> > On 10/23/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz> wrote:
> >>
> >> jak to dopadlo s tema deskama?
> >> mam ocekavat ze se mi to vrati v nejblizsi dobe nebo to nekdo byl
> >> vyzvednout?
> >>
> >> p.
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From dusan at idealnypartner.sk  Wed Oct 24 11:10:52 2007
From: dusan at idealnypartner.sk (dusan)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:10:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Puredata] Fwd: Pozvanka na dilnu tento patek
Message-ID: <55735.82.208.37.74.1193227852.squirrel@xena.media7.sk>


v IIM je v piatok dielna arduina
ak to mate niekto blizko do prahy.
mal by byt aj stream.

dusan


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [intermedia] Pozvanka na dilnu tento patek
From:    "Roman Berka" <berka at fel.cvut.cz>
Date:    Wed, October 24, 2007 12:48 pm
To:      "intermedia & nova media" <intermedia at node9.org>
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ITT a Institut intermedi? zvou na u?ast na d?ln?

Networking performance II - Artduino a physical computing

P?tek 26.10.2007

doba trv?n? d?lny od 14:00 do 19.00

M?sto: medialaborato? INSTITUTU INTERM?DI?

Fakulta elektrotechnick? ?VUT, hala H24/2, Technick? 2, 16627, Praha 6

(Hala 24H je v p??zem? zadn?ho traktu FEL ?VUT, FEL je na Dejvick?m
n?m?st? v Praze 6)

http://www.iim.cz

mo?nost sledovat online na
www.lemurie.cz  video streaming

lekto?i: Jakub Hybler a Guy van Belle

d?lna bude rozd?lena na 2 pracovn? skupiny - ??sti

program:

?vod do druh? pasivn?ch a aktivn?ch PC a pasivn?ch a aktivn?ch u?ivatel?
technologii.


??st jakuba hyblera aneb bastlen? ?esky/anglicky

co je mal? a co je velk? co je jednoduch? a co je slo?it?
what is small and what is big what is simple and what is complex(difficult)


1. od konceptu                 odskokem p?es webov? zdroje (informace)
2. k formulaci                skokem do bazaru ?i GM (materie...materi?l)
3. a z?pisu                software (duch ve stroji)
4. katarze                        kdy? se n?co neda?? (m??en?)
5. realizace                       tah na br?nu (hra s aplikac?)

Od sezn?men? s t?matem budeme pokra?ovat k hled?n? informa?n?ch zdroj?
- p?edstav?me si aktu?ln? prost?edky p?ipraven? pro workshop (HW -
Arduino, Stamp,
sou??stky; SW prost?edky ...platformy Mac a PC)
- stanov?me si "realizovateln?" c?le
- samostatn? pr?ce / konzultace
- prezentace

ps: inspirace - midi, ?idla, led art, zvuky/pazvuky, lo-fi, robot,
motor....traktor....atraktor!

vo co de?

Arduino je levn? mal? n?stroj, desti?ka tak zvan?ho mikropo??ta?e, nebo
mikrokontrol?ru, kter? vymysleli v roce 2006 ital?t? a ameri?n?  bastle?i,
zab?vaj?c? se r?zn?mi aplikacemi, ke kter?m je pot?eba propojit po??ta? s
n?jak?m
dal??m za??zen?m nebo re?ln?m sv?tem.  U?it? je jak v technice, tak v
um?n? bohat?,
ale nejl?pe se hod? pro n?koho, kdo m? z?jem o stavbu interaktivn?ch
instalac?, o
pou??v?n?  ?idel pro kinetick? a zvukov? objekty a prost?ed?. A tak? pro
toho, kdo
na to nem? dostatek pen?z, nebo si neum? postavit elektronick?  sou??stky
s?m.

Mikropo??ta? ?i mikrokontrol?r je elektronick? sou??stka nej?ast?ji v podob?
integrovan?ho obvodu (?ipu). Jde s n?m komunikovat,  naprogramovat ho tak,
aby
zvl?dl n?jakou relativn? jednoduchou ?lohu v elektronick?m zapojen?. S
mikropo??ta?i
se setk?me v t?m??  ka?d?m elektronick?m za??zen? (televizorech, mobiln?ch
telefonech, mp3 p?ehr?va??ch, automobilech, atd.) a um?lci objevili kouzlo
mikrokontrol?r? tam, kde je vhodn? uplatnit jejich funkcionalitu mimo
laborato?e.
Tedy v galeri?ch, na divadeln?ch prknech, nebo ve  ve?ejn?m prostoru, kde
nech?vat
le?et drah? po??ta?e se moc nevyplati. Stavba kinetick?ch, sv?teln?ch a
interaktivn?ch objekt? kde  doch?z? ke komunikaci mezi ?lov?kem a
po??ta?em kter?
nen? omezena na klik?n? my?? a civ?n? na monitor, se naz?v? v angli?tin?
physical
computing a jeho ko?eny sahaj? do d?evn?ch dob kybernetiky a robotiky V
?esk?m
milieu jsou jeho nad?en?mi zast?nci  nap??klad Kri?tof Kintera, nebo Tom??
Hr?za.

V?hodou pou?it? mikropo??ta?? je, ?e um? nahradit velk? a drah?
elektronick?
zapojen? slo?en? nap?. z diskr?tn?ch sou??stek a  jednoduch?ch
integrovan?ch obvod?.
Mikropo??ta? sice v sob? ukr?v? podstatn? slo?it?j?? elektronick?
zapojen?, ale d?ky
tomu, ?e se  vyr?b? ve velk?m mno?stv?, se poda?ilo stla?it jejich cenu na
p?ijatelnou ?rove?. Arduino p?ijde asi na 20 Euro, zat?mco dal??  srovnateln?
produkty dostupn? na trhu jako je nap??klad Basic Stamp jsou relativn?
dra???.

Je to desti?ka se vstupem a n?kolika v?stupy, kter? se vejde do dlan?.
P?ipojena k
po??ta?i um? p?ev?d?t digit?ln? data na impulsy,  povely, ur?en? pro
nejr?zn?j??
elektronick? a mechanick? apar?ty: senzory, um? kontrolovat sp?n?n?,
zhas?n?n?
sv?tel, to??c? se  servomotory, nebo ovl?dat n?jak? MIDI za??zen?. Arduino
um?
fungovat i kdy? je odpojeno od po??ta?e, nebo komunikovat s programy  jako
je Flash,
Processing, MaxMPS, nebo Pure Data.

Skupina kter? jej vyvinula pat?? do n?zorov? skupiny tv?rc? technologie,
kte?? jsou
p?esv?d?en?, ?e technika m? pat?it v?em, kdo o n?  maj? z?jem a nem? b?t v
prv? ?ad?
jen zdrojem zisku. Proto zve?ej?uj? v?echna sch?mata a n?vody, jak si ji s?m
ubastlit. Ka?d? si  m??e postavit Arduino, pokud to um?.


V?t?inou tzv. interface design p?edpokl?d?, ?e budeme jen zach?zet s
hotov?m ?rotem
a programem - s kl?vesnic?, monitorem,  bednami, my?? a soust?ed?me se
hlavn? na
ovl?d?n? a pou??v?n? programu - software. V tzv. physical computing, (nebo
hardware
hacking) se um?lci, program?to?i a design??i pohybuj? v mnohem ?ir??m a
uvoln?n?j??m
kontextu komunikace ?lov?ka a p??stroje.
PC - Physical computing je zp?sob jak se l?pe dorozum?vat s apar?tem (nebo
po??ta?em) pota?mo mezi sebou  a to nejen  prost?ednictv?m oblig?tn?ho
ma?k?n? my?i,
?uk?n? na kl?vesnici a z?r?n? na monitor. Je to z?rove? metoda p?irozen?ho
rozv?jen?
 pohybov?ch a ment?ln?ch vlastnost? ?lov?ka prost?ednictv?m reaguj?c?ho nebo
reaktivn?ho prost?ed?, kde jsou lid? a stroje ve vz?jemn?  interakci.

To znamen?, ?e se mus?me nau?it a pochopit jak vlastn? po??ta? funguje a jak
nap??klad transformuje energii, vyd?vanou na??m t?lem -  teplotu, sv?tlo,
zvuk,
zm?nu pozice, atd., jak ji k?duje ji do elektronick?ch sign?l?, kter? ?te a
*interpretuje*. Analogie lidsk?ch smysl?  je v tomto mechanick?m prost?ed?
receptor
- ?idlo.  Jako mozek funguje - jednoduch? po??ta? - mikrokontroler,
komunikuj?c? se
?idly,  p?ev?d?j?c? sign?ly na data a reaguj?c? s prost?ed?m
prost?ednictv?m
v?stupu-sign?lu, vys?lan?ho sm?rem k dal??m mechanizm?m -  servomotor?m,
reproduktoru, monitoru, sv?teln? soustav? atd.

Physical computing je z?bavn?, (pokud to nekou?? a neho??, tak je to v
po??dku) a
znamen? komplexn? pr?ci o??, u??, mozku a rukou -  nap??klad p?jen?
obvod?, psan?
programu, p?ipojov?n? senzor? a kontrol?r?*. Ale nemus?te to studovat,
sta?? se
p?ihl?sit na tuto d?lnu.

for english speaking students


Fundamental to the developement of interactive or autonomous objects,
physical or
virtual, is the establishment of an interesting
relationship between the technological artefact and its environment.
The use of sensors to analyze this, and the coupling of motors to enact
upon this,
is an important issue, for which we can use  self-made and customized
electronic
boards.
As an introduction, we'd rather take one step back, and try to investigate
how our
off the (shop-) shelve computers are fit for analyzing  its environment.
How can
theories of perception help us with building interfaces for a camera (an
eye) and a
microphone (an ear).  Secondly
how do we deal with the incoming information through these almost domestic
devices
(at least in leisure time).
Thirdly how can we enact upon the environment with audio and video,
through audio
and visual synthesis techniques, based on  audiovisual physical modeling
techniques,
that make sense somehow. Or the addition of a board for external operating
devices
for  mechanical purposes.
For this part, bring a computer, webcam, videocamera and//or microphone.
Make your
computer hear like a van Gogh and see like a  cyclop.

and let them make us dance!
givan bela


u?ite?n? odkazy:
http://safari.oreilly.com/0596003145/hardwarehks-PREF-2
http://www.oreilly.com/hardwarehacking/
http://tigoe.net/pcomp/index.shtml
Karta Arduino je open-source physical computing produkt zalo?en? na
jednoduch?m HD
syst?mu (i/o board - input/output karta) a  programovac?m prost?ed? - Arduino
software. Programovac? jazyk Arduina je sou??st jazyku Wiring, a postaven? na
Processingu.

Arduino se pou??v? pro stavbu interaktivn?ch objekt?, p?ij?m? sign?ly z
r?zn?ch
sp?na?? nebo senzor? a ovl?daj?c? nap??klad sv?tla,  motorky, atd. Arduino
projekty
mohou b?t samostatn? bez PC, nebo napojen? na software va?eho
po??ta?e.(nap??klad
Flash,  Processing, MaxMSP, Jitter.)
Karty si m??ete  postavit sami podle sch?matu, nebo si je zakoupit hotov?
asi za 20
Euro.
Sch?ma je ke sta?en? zdarma

http://www.arduino.cc/
http://wiring.org.co/
dal?? karty
http://www.processing.org/
http://web.media.mit.edu/~ayb/irx/irx2/
http://ladyada.net/techproj/Atmex/index.html
http://www.bluemelon.org

http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~dano/CUI/ICMC2006.pdf
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1335&dDocName=en010300

http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/C18_Lib_51297d.pdf
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/
http://www.usb.org/developers/hidpage/#Usage_Tables

vezmete si sebou:

vlastn? laptop jestli m?te a n?co z tohoto

skupinky po 3 lidech  ve skupin?

1x p?jka, c?n, kalafuna
1x nep?jiv? pole (breadboard)
1x ?t?pac? kle?t?
1x izola?n? p?ska
k?bliky, gluegun

set sou??stek pro pokusy a  basic stamp

jakub hybler
tel: 604231825

Lektor Jakub Hybler je oboj?iveln? nad?en? v?eum?l. Nejen vystudovan?
in?en?r a
program?tor, pracuj?c? pro ?adu divadeln?ch projektu  v Alfr?du ve dvo?e i
jinde,
ale i sv?bytn? um?lec a vyn?lezce, schopn? sd?let znalosti a sv?j talent s
lidmi,
kte?? jsou zv?davi, co se d?  se sou?asnou, pro laika ?asto tajemnou a
nepochopitelnou technikou vykouzlit a jak m??e slou?it ke h?e a um?n?.

Guy van Belle
um?lec a program?tor, zab?v? se um?n?m algoritm?, robotick?mi instalacemi a
performancemi p?es internet, ?ije v Bratislav?

odkaz: Early Sonic Networker. Guy van Belle in Conversation with Sabine
Breitsameter. July 2005.
http://www.swr.de/swr2/audiohyperspace/engl_version/interview/vanbelle.html

http://mxhz.org
http://societyofalgorithm.org
http://karasssuite.net
http://okno.be


Je nutn? potvrdit ??ast do ?tvrtka 18.10 do 15.00
na emailu: vojtechovskym at famu.cz nebo berka at fel.cvut.cz

tesime se
Roman Berka a Milos Vojtechovsky

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From hvss at seznam.cz  Wed Oct 24 11:57:48 2007
From: hvss at seznam.cz (Pepa Henzl)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:57:48 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] Fwd: Pozvanka na dilnu tento patek
In-Reply-To: <55735.82.208.37.74.1193227852.squirrel@xena.media7.sk>
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Dne st?eda 24 ??jen 2007 14:10 dusan napsal(a):
> v IIM je v piatok dielna arduina
> ak to mate niekto blizko do prahy.
> mal by byt aj stream.
>
> dusan

jsem psal tomasovi ze tu mam nejake arduino plosnaky jeste, ale neozval se. 
kdyz by jste tam nekdo byl, tak dejte kdyztak lidem vedet, rad bych ten 
zbytek jeste prodal.

p.

From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 15:50:58 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:50:58 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
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Dosky som vybral, teraz sa uz len staci dohodnut, kde a kedy sa stretneme.
(mne je to suma fuk) :)

Jedna doska vychadza na 287sk.

peter

On 10/24/07, Andr?s Cs?falvay <andras.csefalvay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Vyber to - ja iba potrebujem vediet ze kam mam preto ist , a kedy, a 300sk
> alebo ako to teraz vyzera?
>
>
> On 24/10/2007, gnd at itchybit.org <gnd at itchybit.org> wrote:
> >
> > jasne vyber to :)
> >
> >
> > > no .....asi to pojdem vybrat ....nikto sa mi neozval zatial, tak som
> > > cakal.
> > >
> > > takze tymto apelujem na gnd-ho a andrasa aby sa vyjadrili ze ci to
> > > vyberiem
> > > alebo nie.
> > > myslim ze aj tak sa to nebude dat uz vyriesit lacnejsie velmi
> > > (predpokladam
> > > ze postovne prepadne)
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > > On 10/23/07, Pepa Henzl <hvss at seznam.cz > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> jak to dopadlo s tema deskama?
> > >> mam ocekavat ze se mi to vrati v nejblizsi dobe nebo to nekdo byl
> > >> vyzvednout?
> > >>
> > >> p.
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Puredata mailing list
> > >> Puredata at itchybit.org
> > >> http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Puredata mailing list
> > > Puredata at itchybit.org
> > > http://itchybit.org/mailman/listinfo/puredata
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Puredata mailing list
> > Puredata at itchybit.org
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From andras.csefalvay at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 05:50:35 2007
From: andras.csefalvay at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E1s_Cs=E9falvay?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:50:35 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
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Cau, zajtra o nejakej 2-3 by sme sa mohli stretnut ?  Niekde v meste, napr.
V K?te, alebo tam iba pred K?tom -  je ide?lna  skr??a  pre na?e tajn?
obchodovanie.
moj mob. 0908654486.
In? n?vrh?:)
Andr
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From peto.a.vlk at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 12:23:42 2007
From: peto.a.vlk at gmail.com (peter mikus)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:23:42 +0200
Subject: [Puredata] co?
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Zajtra okolo 15.00 je OK

On 10/25/07, Andr?s Cs?falvay <andras.csefalvay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cau, zajtra o nejakej 2-3 by sme sa mohli stretnut ?  Niekde v meste,
> napr. V K?te, alebo tam iba pred K?tom -  je ide?lna  skr??a  pre na?e tajn?
> obchodovanie.
> moj mob. 0908654486.
> In? n?vrh?:)
> Andr
>
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